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  • High cost, low benefit claim

    High Cost, Low Benefit — For Whom?

    An ALTO Vice-President says the rail alternative would cost about as much as high-speed rail without the benefits. The government’s own record — and ALTO’s own document — say otherwise.

    In short

    In a recent public video, an ALTO Vice-President argues that high-frequency rail would still need dedicated track, would therefore cost about as much as high-speed rail, and would deliver less — a “high cost, low benefit” option. The claim runs against the public record. The government’s own reports costed a dedicated-track high-frequency railway far below high-speed rail, and judged it buildable in a fraction of the time. What shifted that cost to “similar” has never been made public.

    On the benefit side, ALTO’s case rests on ridership the international reference class does not support. Tested against ALTO’s own document and the Initiative’s financial analysis, the high-cost option turns out to be the one being built.

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    The Argument

    What the video claims

    The argument is a single chain. High-frequency rail, the video says, is often presented as the cheaper alternative — but it would still require new dedicated track, so its cost would rise to roughly that of high-speed rail, while delivering lower travel-time, ridership, and economic benefits. The conclusion offered to viewers is that high-frequency rail is a “high cost, low benefit” option, while high-speed rail delivers both speed and frequency.

    It is a clean story. Two problems sit beneath it before any single figure is examined.

    It claims a cost convergence the record contradicts

    The video is right that high-frequency rail needs dedicated track — it does not claim trains would share track with freight. Its claim is that building that dedicated track pushes the cost up to roughly high-speed rail’s. The government’s own reports say otherwise, on both cost and time. A dedicated-track, electrified high-frequency railway was costed at $27.7 billion in the December 2021 Business Case — and roughly $4–6 billion in its original 2016 form — and judged buildable in about four years. High-speed rail is now costed at $60–90 billion, on a build horizon stretching into the 2040s. What evidence moved high-frequency rail’s cost and schedule up to “similar” has never been explained, and no side-by-side comparison has been made public.

    It never engages the alternative the Initiative proposes

    The video treats high-frequency rail as the only alternative to high-speed rail. The Initiative’s proposal is different again: High Performance Rail (HPR) builds dedicated passenger track along existing transportation corridors — such as the CN right-of-way and the Highway 401 — and frees the Kingston Subdivision for freight. It is neither the government’s old high-frequency plan nor ALTO’s high-speed one, and ALTO has never assessed it.

    Tested Against the Record

    Three claims, three answers

    $27.7B
    what a dedicated-track high-frequency railway was costed at — against $60–90B for high-speed rail
    2021 JPO Business Case
    the cost-per-kilometre gap between ALTO and High Performance Rail in the Initiative’s model
    $142M vs $28M per km
    0.11
    ALTO’s central benefit-cost ratio — well below the 1.0 that marks a project that pays its way
    Initiative methodology paper

    The video makes three factual claims — on cost, on speed, and on benefit. Each can be checked against ALTO’s own published document and the Initiative’s analysis.

    The claim in the videoWhat the record shows
    “It would cost on a similar scale to high-speed rail.” Contradicted by the public record. The government’s own 2021 Business Case put a dedicated-track high-frequency railway at $27.7 billion, against ALTO’s $60–90 billion. Even ALTO’s own Annex B places its “conventional rail” comparator 20–30% below high-speed rail. The Initiative’s reference-class model — a regression across more than forty international projects — puts ALTO at $142M/km and HPR at $28M/km, a five-fold gap. “Similar scale” holds on none of these.
    “Without significantly faster travel times.” Conventional speed already captures most of the benefit. A 177 km/h dedicated-track service was set to cut Toronto–Ottawa from over four hours to about two hours fifty. By ALTO’s own travel-time table, going to 300 km/h saves only a further 17 minutes on Toronto–Ottawa, 19 on Ottawa–Montréal, and 25 on Montréal–Québec. Most of the time saving comes from leaving freight-priority track — not from the extra speed.
    “Lower ridership and reduced economic benefits.” The benefit case rests on ridership the reference class does not support. ALTO’s 24-million-trip target sits outside the achievable modal-shift frontier of 5–12 million annual riders. No operating posture is subsidy-free; each requires roughly $1–3.5 billion per year. The central benefit-cost ratio is about 0.11. The “high benefit” half of the slogan is the half that does not survive checking.
    A Note on the Travel Times

    Estimated, not simulated

    There is a further problem with the speed claim, separate from how small the gain is. The faster journey times were never modelled for this corridor at all. A government record released under the Access to Information Act (file A-2025-00333) shows that the project office produced a detailed RailSys simulation only for the 177 km/h base case. Every faster journey time was a spreadsheet estimate, benchmarked to average speeds on intercity railways in other countries — described in the project’s own memorandum as “for information and comparison purposes” and left to be refined later.

    In other words, the under-three-hour trips that make high-speed rail attractive have no corridor-specific engineering behind them in the released record. The one number anyone actually drove through a model of the real line is the slow one.

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    The Initiative examines this in detail — the two methods, the journey-time tables, and how the speed ceiling was set as a policy target — in a companion research note, Estimated, Not Simulated, based on the same Access to Information release.

    The Carbon Case

    A carbon debt, not a carbon saving

    The video folds environmental benefit into ALTO’s column, on the assumption that faster, higher-ridership rail is the greener choice. The Initiative’s 50-year lifecycle analysis finds the opposite once construction and a decarbonising vehicle fleet are counted. ALTO’s build is a large one-time carbon debt before a single passenger boards — about 14.7 Mt CO₂e in the central construction estimate — and with fifty years of operations the lifecycle total lands at roughly 24 to 27 Mt CO₂e on Ontario’s current grid, and as much as 34 Mt if the grid leans more on gas.

    That debt only counts as a saving if the trips it captures would otherwise have been higher-carbon — and the payback math is unforgiving. At the ridership the corridor is most likely to see in its early years, around 4 million passengers a year, no scenario repays the construction debt within a credible horizon. Even at mature ridership, payback runs from a few decades to more than five hundred years, depending on how clean the grid is.

    The comparison only worsens with time. By the 2040s, when ALTO might open, much of the car fleet will be electric — and an electric car carrying 1.2 people already emits about 10 g CO₂e per passenger-kilometre, below ALTO’s all-in emissions at every ridership level on today’s grid. Diverting existing VIA Rail passengers, at roughly 25 g/pkm, saves nothing at all. ALTO’s carbon case rests on displacing gasoline cars and short-haul flights — not the fleet that will actually be on the road when it opens.

    Most of that debt is greenfield construction. An approach that runs on existing corridors — as High Performance Rail does — avoids the bulk of it, and the single largest carbon lever, shifting freight off congested track, is available whatever the trains’ speed or traction.

    Why the Gap Is Real

    The cost difference is structural, not arithmetic

    The five-fold difference in the Initiative’s model is not an accounting artefact. A 300 km/h design forces a new dedicated greenfield alignment — grade separation, gentle curves, continuous fencing, and large-scale land acquisition — through terrain that scores high on both engineering complexity and community friction. Both the government’s high-frequency plan and the Initiative’s HPR instead run on or alongside existing corridors, which is why each comes in well below the high-speed option. In the Initiative’s model, the gap between high-speed rail and HPR splits roughly evenly between physical engineering and community friction — the cost of the land, the disruption, and the opposition that a new high-speed right-of-way creates.

    The Bottom Line

    High cost, low benefit — for whom?

    The video’s thesis — that high-frequency rail is high cost and low benefit while high-speed rail delivers both — is contradicted by the government’s own record. High-frequency rail was a fully studied, dedicated-track plan, priced at $27.7 billion in 2021 and a fraction of that in its original form, and due to be carrying passengers now. The decision to replace it with a 300 km/h, $60–90-billion project was taken without a published comparison; the video supplies the missing conclusion after the fact.

    On the evidence available, the high-cost option is the one that was chosen. The lower-cost alternatives — the government’s own, and the Initiative’s — were set aside without being weighed in public. That is the question the slogan invites, turned back on itself: high cost, low benefit, for whom?

    Sources

    Primary documents

    1.
    ALTO, Fast Forward: Shaping Canada’s Future with a High-Speed Rail Network (March 2025) — cost ranges, travel times, and ridership targets, main text and Annex B. altotrain.ca
    2.
    Joint Project Office High Frequency Rail Project, Business Case Update, V.002 (December 10, 2021) — dedicated-track design, $27.7 billion costing, and four-year construction estimate.
    3.
    The Globe and Mail, “Transport Canada reviewing studies on Via Rail expansion” (July 2017) — the original 2016 high-frequency concept at roughly $4–6 billion. theglobeandmail.com
    4.
    “VIA HFR-TGF Journey Times” memorandum and accompanying email chain (August–September 2023), released under the Access to Information Act as file A-2025-00333 — simulated base case versus estimated higher-speed times.
    5.
    ALTO HSR Citizen Research Initiative, ALTO Financial Analysis (methodology paper and supporting research notes) — cost-per-kilometre model, ridership frontier, subsidy spectrum, benefit-cost ratio, and lifecycle carbon. ALTO-Financial-Analysis.pdf
    6.
    ALTO HSR Citizen Research Initiative, 50-Year Lifecycle CO₂ Budget — Parametric Analysis (March 2026) — construction, operational, payback, and modal-comparison figures, drawing on HS2, UIC, and international HSR lifecycle studies.
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    Statements examined: public video by an ALTO Vice-President (June 2026).
  • Estimated not simulated

    Estimated, Not Simulated

    The journey times behind ALTO were drawn from a spreadsheet of international averages — not from a model of the actual corridor. What that distinction means, and who set the target.

    Critical Finding

    A government record released under the Access to Information Act shows that, of the journey times prepared for the project, only the slowest case was produced by an actual simulation of the railway. That case was a 110 mph (177 km/h) train — a roughly four-hour Toronto–Montréal trip. Every faster time, including those near the speeds ALTO now markets, came from a spreadsheet that applied average speeds borrowed from intercity railways in other countries.

    The technical memorandum describes those faster figures, in its own words, as “for information and comparison purposes.” And the email chain attached to it records the most senior Transport Canada official on the file directing that the times not assume Toronto speeds above 160 mph (257 km/h), because a higher figure was “not the intent of the Government.” The journey time, in other words, was managed as a policy and cost target — not derived as an engineering result.

    The Record

    What the document is

    The release (A-2025-00333) was obtained under the Access to Information Act and provided to the Initiative. It consists of an email chain dated August 30 to September 4, 2023 among Transport Canada and Via HFR / Via TGF officials and their technical advisers, together with the attached memorandum “VIA HFR-TGF Journey Times.” It dates from the procurement period, when the project was still a high-frequency rail (HFR) programme under Transport Canada’s lead, before the February 2025 announcement re-scoped it as high-speed rail at 300 km/h.

    The memorandum is the engineering note that sits beneath the project’s headline travel times. It is explicit about how those times were calculated — and it used two very different methods for two different parts of the answer.

    The Distinction That Matters

    Two ways to get a journey time

    A train’s journey time is the single number a project like this is sold on — “Toronto to Montréal in X hours.” There are two fundamentally different ways to produce that number, and they are not equally reliable.

    A simulation builds a digital twin of the real railway and “drives” a train along it. The software knows the actual track: every curve that forces the train to slow, every hill, every station stop, where the signals are, how fast the specific train accelerates and brakes, and whether other trains — including freight — are in the way. It runs the trip second by second on that line and reports how long it genuinely takes. The memorandum names the tool used for this: RailSys, drawing on the JPO’s 2021 Rail Operational Summary Report. It is the railway equivalent of a flight simulator, or of a mapping app with live traffic.

    A spreadsheet estimate does something far cruder: it takes the distance, assumes an average speed borrowed from how fast trains run in other countries, and divides one by the other. It never looks at this corridor’s actual geometry, terrain, urban approaches, or shared freight track. The memorandum is candid that its faster figures are of this kind — an “estimated calculation based on the maximum permissible speed,” provided “for information and comparison purposes.”

    Simulation — the RailSys toolSpreadsheet estimate
    Drives the actual route. Models every curve, gradient, station stop, signal and conflicting train on the real Toronto–Québec line, second by second. Distance ÷ an assumed average speed. Takes the route length and an average operating speed benchmarked to comparable intercity rail abroad, and divides.
    Knows the corridor. A curve too tight for high speed shows up as a slower section; a freight train ahead shows up as lost minutes. Constraints surface before construction, not after. Blind to the corridor. Cannot see this line’s curves, hills, city approaches or freight sharing. The memorandum labels its outputs indicative only.
    What ALTO simulated. Only the 110 mph (177 km/h) base case — roughly a four-hour Toronto–Montréal trip. What ALTO estimated. Every faster time, including the 160 and 186 mph figures (257 and 300 km/h) closest to the marketed speeds.

    The difference is the difference between “we modelled it and it works” and “we estimated it from comparables.” The first is a tested result for this railway. The second is an educated guess that a later, detailed study would have to confirm.

    What Was Actually Run

    The only simulated number is the slow one

    ~4 hrs
    the only Toronto–Montréal time actually simulated (110 mph / 177 km/h base case)
    RailSys, per the memorandum
    Spreadsheet
    the source of every faster journey time on the page
    benchmarked to foreign averages
    160 mph
    (257 km/h) — the speed ceiling set as “the intent of the Government”
    TC official, Aug–Sept 2023

    The memorandum’s own tables make the gap plain. The single time it produced by simulation — the 110 mph (177 km/h) base case — is roughly 3:59 to 4:19 for Toronto–Montréal. The faster times on the same page, for a 186 mph (300 km/h) or 160 mph (257 km/h) train, run from about 2:40 to 3:10. But those faster figures are the spreadsheet ones. The four-hour trip is the only number anyone actually drove through the model. The under-three-hour trips that make high-speed rail attractive were never simulated for this corridor.

    This matters because the public ALTO project is now built on 300 km/h (186 mph) running. Even the “calculated” 186 mph (300 km/h) times in this 2023 record trace back to the spreadsheet, not the simulator — and the simulator was only ever pointed at the slow case.

    A second problem: not the door-to-door time

    There is a second issue with these numbers, separate from how they were produced. Every figure here — simulated or estimated — is a train-in-motion time, measured platform to platform. It is not the door-to-door time that decides whether a traveller picks rail over flying, and door-to-door time depends on something ALTO has not settled: where the stations are. With downtown stations at both ends the corridor is competitive; with the suburban or peri-urban stations most consistent with the project’s cost structure, the advantage over air narrows or disappears. A separate academic submission to the consultation went further, noting that ALTO’s published times do not appear to even include the time for a stop in Ottawa — so the in-motion figures may be understated before the door-to-door question is reached. We treat that in full in The Station Location Problem and The Last Mile; the point here is narrower — the headline time is an estimate, and even taken at face value it is not the number that matters.

    Who Set the Target

    The journey time as a government decision

    The instruction to hold the journey times down did not come from a technician. The email chain records that when a Toronto figure was put forward assuming sustained speeds above 160 mph (257 km/h), a Transport Canada official objected that it “assumes a full journey time from Toronto at speed greater than 160, which is not the intent of the Government,” and explained that the intent was to have bidders identify the segments with the lowest marginal cost for higher speed. The exchange closes on September 4, 2023 with the project director’s note: “No change to journey time agreed by Vincent.”

    That official is Vincent Robitaille. According to Transport Canada’s own published biography, Robitaille has served as Assistant Deputy Minister – High Frequency Rail since December 2021 — the month the project’s governance passed to a Transport Canada–led integrated team — and he leads that team. His background before the role was in commercial policy and financing, not rail engineering: from 2018 to 2021 he was Director General of Transport Canada’s Centre of Excellence on Strategic Investments, working on the commercial elements and alternative financing of major transportation investments, and before that he led the public-private-partnership procurement of the new Champlain Bridge Corridor in Montréal. His credentials are financial and project-management designations (CFA, PMP, Certified Director, and an MBA). Transport Canada

    Why the background is relevant, not incidental

    This is an observation of record, not of motive. The person defining the journey-time ceiling as the Government’s intent — and steering bidders toward “the lowest marginal cost” rather than the fastest trip — is the project’s most senior Transport Canada official, whose professional expertise is procurement and project financing. It is consistent with a journey time being treated as a commercial and cost target to be managed, rather than an engineering output to be measured. The released record shows the target being set; it does not require any inference about why.

    Two Years Later

    The same official, now selling the fast times

    In a public podcast interview in December 2025, Robitaille — by then leading the project for Transport Canada — described the corridor to a general audience in precisely the terms the 2023 record could not support with simulation: Montréal reachable in well under current rail times, a city you could reach for a day trip and return the same evening, trains “every half an hour,” the corridor as “commuting distance.” Those are the fast, frequent-service figures — the ones drawn from the spreadsheet.

    The internal record from 2023 shows the same official holding the specification below those speeds — directing that journey times not assume sustained running above 160 mph (257 km/h), because faster was “not the intent of the Government” — and relying on benchmarked estimates for anything quicker. The public pitch and the internal caution are two years apart and point in opposite directions. The travel times now used to sell the project are of the kind the same official described internally, in 2023, as indicative.

    The Bottom Line

    A promise, or an estimate?

    When a government tells the public “this train will get you there in X hours,” people reasonably assume engineers modelled the actual route and confirmed it. This record shows that, for the fast times, they did not. They did the back-of-an-envelope version — distance against speeds observed in other countries — and said so internally. A spreadsheet estimate is a hope; a simulation is the closest thing to a tested promise. The faster ALTO travels in its marketing, the further it gets from the only journey time anyone actually ran.

    One caveat, stated plainly so the point is not overdrawn. The memorandum does say these estimates were always meant to be refined through later design and operational modelling by the eventual private partner. So the fair claim is not that the numbers were invented. It is that the detailed validation was deferred, and that as of this 2023 record the project’s faster journey times — including those near what is marketed today — had no corridor-specific engineering behind them, only benchmarked estimates. No simulation of high-speed running on the Toronto–Québec line appears anywhere in the released record.

    Sources

    Primary documents

    1.
    Transport Canada / Via HFR (Via TGF), “VIA HFR-TGF Journey Times” (HFR JT note 20230831) and accompanying email chain, August 30 – September 4, 2023. Released under the Access to Information Act as file A-2025-00333.
    2.
    Joint Project Office, Phase 2C Rail Operational Summary Report (2021) — the RailSys simulation source referenced in the memorandum for the 110 mph (177 km/h) base case.
    3.
    Transport Canada, Briefing Documents 2025, biography: “Vincent Robitaille — Assistant Deputy Minister – High Frequency Rail.” tc.canada.ca
    4.
    “From Bridges to Trains: Career lessons with Vincent Robitaille,” The Supply Chain Ambassador podcast, premiered December 3, 2025. Public interview; transcript auto-generated. youtube.com